hi Perna, it took me some time to process your post (cool) and i bet i could still glean more... thank you, the quote from about.com is a very good read... i feel uplift and honest approach in the words..

i agree that religion is only a portion of the Earths' pains.. hard to give an estimate... maybe 50%? idk...

people doing their own thing? yeah, i'd give that a column in the overall assessment... i'd say its a mis-understanding of what freedom is...

Jung says there is a Moral obligation... i ask, in what way do obligation and freedom merge? it seems a crux... so, perhaps, one is easier than the other?

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We are all related and in "this" together. But we are also all individuals with individual beliefs and ideas of what is right/wrong, good/bad, heaven/hell, etc.

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most of us are against basic real life horror despite or maybe because of our chosen faith aren't we?

war is rarely popular with the people... rarely do the people decide to go to war... usually only in cases of revolution...

governments usually choose war... from the small political camps in remote African jungles to world politics...

at home, within our own borders, in cities and towns, destruction and intolerance continues because there is no stability in our leadership.. there is no continuing tranquility... where are the peoples examples?

i should say, im not anti Bible... but chocolatelover used the terms "narrow minded doctines" ...

i acknowledge that those who are guilty of mis-interpretations are not the true followers of the word and do not represent the true faith..

i acknowledge that the decievers of truth are base level contributors of pain and suffering... this is truth as i see it...