Over the past 6 years.... I have tried to be patient with my son... who is 23... I never "demand" that he spend a holiday with me... I do ask " so... how about getting together for the holiday".. meaning on the holiday... or a different day...

have been patient... tried.. dinners out.. big dinners home... and he has been dating same girl... except for past year... and the result.. is "no show"... or.. hour to many hours late..

so this year.. I ask.. you want to get together... and he decided on Christmas.... and them I try to pin him down to a time.. ya know...

and.. so sometime... between 8am and midnight.. perhaps he will be dropping by.... though..."her is definitely" coming over..

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what would you guys do??????

for me.. I bought a pizza... if he shows.. I will stick it in the oven.. and we will eat.. and he can have his presents..

otherwise... I will just hang onto presents till... whenever..

and do your 23 year old male son's.. buy you a Christmas card... or anything???