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Originally Posted by iPhone
I have to say that although I personally don't like guns, I'm 100% against blanket restrictions being placed on the mentally ill. For one thing, if someone wants to use a gun to commit a crime they are going to find a way to get one, no matter what. As a matter of fact most do not own the firearms legally. So this doesn't prevent any crime.
For another, everyone should be assessed on a case by case basis. Mental illness isn't this general thing that affects every person in the same way. For example, addiction often co occurs with MI. I, however have never struggled with that. Is it fair to assume that I'm going to become an addict, just because so many others have? I find it funny that although mental illness seems a lot more complex and case based than physical illness, we are generalized way more than they are.
In short, I think a provider being able to contact a third party without your permission is absurd.
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the gun safety laws went into place because of things like sandy hook, school shootings and other mass shootings that have happened here in the USA, in just about every case at one point the shooter or shooters family said the one going on mass shooting sprees in in the schools, shopping malls, movie theaters and such other public mass shootings, was mentally ill with PTSD, Schizophrenia, bipolar and many other mental disorders. the result of this was laws were enacted for helping to stop this kind of violence by having a reporting process. just like a medical doctor can now prevent people with seizure disorders from killing people with driving and having seizures behind the wheel. granted these reporting systems are not without their problems and quirks my suggestion is if one doesnt want to end up flagged dont make threats to harm people, dont be a danger to oneself and others, that way their treatment providers wont have reason to do their reporting systems process because they know someone is a danger to their self and others. and yes I know in some situations the mentally ill do not realize that they are a danger to their self and others. if they did and could control it then there would not have been a reason for this gun safety reporting system. when you think about it laws are not just made and plucked out of the air. there is a reason behind why a law was proposed. went through the legislative process and passed into a law. maybe someday all these people who have mental disorders and shooting up anyone and everyone in mass shootings of schools, churches, shopping malls and other public venues no longer happen so that the laws and reporting system will no longer be needed...
I for one feel a bit safer knowing I can go out to dinner, go to a movie or show, or go to a bar, go shopping, attend my church, take my children to daycare and their schools without worrying every second whether the person next to me is going to whip out a gun, the fear is still there just like a natural disaster is in the back of my mind but at least I dont have to spend my life hiding under a desk.
my point is all these reporting databases for things like when someone is hospitalized, isnt safe with a vehicle or gun well they are now just a matter of public access here in the USA and in some cases for the safety of all. its the world we live in now.