Perna, Thank you for your well thought out reply...yes being suddenly in the middle of the drama was confusing...I felt like I was turning from him to her going, but,but,but,what,what,what...I feel my only tool would have been to ask the woman if she were ok if it had happened right in front of me...but the guy was on the move and the woman was on the move at this point..I think in the past when I was more out-of-my-mind I would have panicked...today amid the chaos I remained calm and thought out how this may effect me...I remember when my dog was attacked by a pit bull I didn't think and just dived in and wrestled the dog of my dog...I guess because as you say that was "mine"...this wasn't..and today that was very obvious to me and I knew my family are mine...being a have-a-go-hero it seems isn't part of my make-up...maybe once upon a time when I dreamt I was a hero...now I am more aware of my shortfalls and my fears and I have to protect myself...what if I had been in that womans position??? I don't know...when my dog was attacked a woman came up to be after the event and asked if I was alright...she said she had seen it happening but didn't know what to do and remembered how her dog being attacked once had made her feel...I didnt hate her for not helping..infact I felt pleased she had stopped to ask me and understood that we are humanbeings doing the best we can....