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Old Jul 23, 2017, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lucozader View Post
I'm confused now because the parallels between the definitions of stalking you've just posted and the feelings that erotic transference (both hostile and loving) inspires seem extremely clear to me!

Also, it's a fact that therapists are more often victims of stalking than the general population. There is some information on that here: http://www.apa.org/monitor/2014/10/i...r-contact.aspx
From the article you posted, it looks just as common in the general population (more common in women who are not therapists than therapists overall):

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Among the general population, about 16 percent of women and 5 percent of men are stalked, according to a 2011 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The incidence is estimated to be higher among mental health professionals: At least 7 percent to 11 percent of mental health care professionals are stalked by a patient or client during their careers, though such statistics are hard to pin down since stalking cases are underreported and even unrecognized, experts say (Psychiatric Services, 2005).
I just think it's rare to that stalking is an outcome of ET as discussed in that article, I think it's more psychotic transference than ET. The malignant ET described in the article BudFox is talking about is more about a client having continuous longings for the T and being hostile about it.

MET as defined by that article sounds nothing like stalking behavior or psychotic transference. Not healthy, but not criminal either. I agree with you it could lead to the criminal behavior but I it's not rarer than with the rest of the population.

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On the more pathological side of the spectrum, Akhtar (1996)
categorizes certain behavior as “malignant erotic transference” which can be described in four aspects:

(1) predominance of hostility over love in the seemingly erotic overtures;
(2) intense coercion of the analyst to indulge in actual actions;
(3) inconsolability inresponse to the analyst’s depriving stance, and
(4) the absence of erotic countertransference in the analyst, who experiences such “erotic” demands as intrusive, desperately controlling, and hostile (as cited in Litjmaer, 2004, p. 492).
Not trying to present an argument but clarify the difference in my view. I don't think many truly dangerous people end up in therapy, though there are plenty walking the streets.
I see that most people who come here to talk about their suffering in ET describe this trait too
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(3) inconsolability in response to the analyst’s depriving stance
The MET definition seems to describe behaviors of those who have more overt qualities; more demanding and not stepping back in observing the behaviors (lack of insight). Acting on the same feelings others have but are more covert about.

So while the paper describes actions of a different category of MET, the underlying feelings are similar. I think it's more related to lack of insight than ET.
Thanks for this!
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