The cake incident >:[

I sometimes wonder if I could find a similar group. Not shamanic specifically. I tried journeying once and maybe it was just an awful facilitator/drummer, but I had a terrible time. It really shook me up, what i experienced, and so I brought myself out of the trance but he kept instructing me to go back. It was bad enough to write it off for good. At least for now. But that was ten years ago.