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Old Jul 28, 2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellowbuggy View Post
I think this may be behind her response (or lack thereof). Perhaps a combination of this and something another poster said about not wanting to get involved in the triad of you, her, and MC. I suspect she doesn't agree with MC's approach and she's not able to say it directly, so she's in a bind. I know she has alluded to it in the past but it may be difficult for her professionally to be more direct, so she may be showing that reluctance in her response.
Thanks, YB. She has basically come out and said that she wouldn't do what he does when she does marriage/couples therapy. Particularly not allowing outside contact with one member of the couple. And she handles marriage counseling differently in general, from what she said--more structured (like she'll have clients make lists, do exercises, etc.). His is more relaxed and unstructured, which definitely has its downsides. She knows a bit firsthand about how he operates in couples counseling because they counseled a couple together for a period at one point (I think one was already her client and the other was his, or something).

I think T has her own sense of what I need and what is "good for me", which is not the same as what MC thinks, at least based on how they each interact with me in general. So I think sometimes when I say how much something he said/did helped me, then it's hard for her to not be like, "No, he shouldn't have done that!" I think what I *really* need is something in between their two approaches.

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IMHO, I do not believe MC is helping you by being so accepting of everything that occurs in therapy. I think it may be fueling your attraction to him (and those of us who are also attracted to our therapists, including myself!). It's just not natural, and it may be one of the reasons we fall in love with our therapists. If therapists are to provide a corrective emotional experience by modelling an appropriate, boundaried relationship, I think it should be more realistic in this way as well. We are not accepted unconditionally outside of the therapy room, so why should it occur inside? For example, if my husband agreed with everything I thought, felt, said and did, we would both be in trouble. That's not to say therapists should not have unconditional positive regard for us, but the level of intense attention paid to us in the therapy room - and only us - can be dangerous as well.
Just to clarify, it's paternal transference that I have for MC rather than erotic/romantic (that was there initially, but I figured out it was really a paternal thing), though there's an intense attachment.

I think MC is trying to provide a corrective emotional experience for me, kinda sorta within the bounds of marriage counseling. He's said before that working through transference can be about going through experiences from your past (in my case, with male authority figures), but with a different ending. And he feels that can be healing. We both think I've made progress (even though sometimes it's a few steps forward then a step or two back). For example, I've been able to tell him that I'm upset with something he said or did. And some of that has carried over into "real life," with interacting with H and a little bit with my parents (and with T). It used to be if I was upset with someone, I'd just blame myself and wouldn't feel comfortable expressing my hurt or anger. But that has changed--I can't say how much of that is in relation to stuff from MC vs. T vs. other stuff.

I do get what you're saying, and I think that's more in line with how T feels and how she practices therapy. It's probably why I'm less attached to her--well, the negative maternal stuff, too, but there's also some positive maternal transference at times. At the same time, I think my mom thought that was what I needed, too--or at least that's what she gave me. And that apparently didn't work so well for me. T isn't as judgmental of me/other people as my mom, but I still sense judgment from her (T) in some of the things I say/do (not just talking about MC stuff here), or even just in how my mind works. Like something T said the other day: "You just spend so much time thinking about things," said in a negative way. Like, yeah, that's just how I am. (Sorry, I'm rambling now!)

I feel like MC is telling me stuff that I need to hear. Like particularly, the younger parts of me. I think that's why I have such a strong emotional response to things he's said to me--because it's stuff I'd been missing. Messages I should have gotten many years ago. I feel he's helped me to feel more secure, stronger, to trust myself more.

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I admire your effort in trying trying to make sense of what is happening in therapy. I like reading your updates. You remind me a lot of myself!
Thanks! It's good to know people like reading my updates (and aren't like, "Oh, no, not LT again!"
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