I think sometimes the worst thing is that dying doesn't always seem like the worst thing. It should seem like it, but in reality it just comes far down the list of what we want to, but not at the bottom where it should be. There are many things that might scare us more. I really don't believe much in being scared straight from drugs, because every drug user already knows that drugs are harmful and can be lethal.

Hopefully the treatment providers know some stuff that might really help. For sure, I don't think this is the first time they are not told the whole truth. Maybe try them and see if they can handle how things really are. I think most drug users actually do have mental health issues of some kind, so they shouldn't be surprised by that. Hopefully they can be more helpful if they know the truth and some of your underlying thoughts. I wouldn't just say just trust them, because some treatment providers don't hold up, but those who do can sometimes help.

As for meth being heroin, I have to shake my head once again. Of course you're correct. Meth is an amphetamine, a man made upper which role it was to mimic the effects of uppers growing, like cocaine. Heroin is plant based, just like all opioids that are not synthetic, like made in a lab. As for oxycodone that is in Percocet, it is somewhere in between plant based and synthetic. Meth and heroin are two very separate types of drugs but you knew that already. I think someone is just having fun by obnoxiously confuse us with false information.

As I heard it, heroin is more common now that there are more restrictions on prescribed opioids. That sounds pretty scary for everyone involved, that it has become easier to find. I know the good feeling from weaker opioids that I had for pain so I can imagine how terribly easy it must be to be stuck on opioids... but maybe one can sort of forget how good it felt, push it out of one's mind... I'm trying this myself as I do crave the weak opioid pain pill I had for a while.

For me there are some natural highs but they only work if I feel somewhat decent. So struggling up to that level... whew. Hopefully doable.

Take care, all you guys.