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Old Aug 22, 2017, 07:29 AM
SarahSweden SarahSweden is offline
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Yes, perhaps it was but itīs both rude and unprofessional to say such a thing to a patient. Also, Iīm not diagnosed with any OCD diagnosis and when I talked to this former T about what she said she just said she could have said the same thing to another client as well.

That is, it has nothing with some kind of diagnosis to do, it was her own thoughts about me and she was frustrated I think that she felt she wasnīt skilled enough to help me reach the goals we set in the beginning.

Iīm going into a psychodynamic therapy now and I hope thatīll work. Iīll emphasize I think the Rogerian approach is very essential and focusing on DSM, shortcomings are just a way to make the patient feel worse. I went through such a problem oriented therapy with my latest T, the one I just told about, and after one year she still sat and looked for faults in my personality.

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Sounds as if she might have been thinking about what they call over here "a n a l retentive", which is based on an old Freudian idea? Not sure that helped any of those old psychoanalysts help anybody. I think it's related to the current DSM diagnosis of Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder, which I think I may have qualified for before I broke down after my late husband died. There is no recognized, effective therapy for that, I have definitely looked. Treating the underlying trauma that may or sometimes gives rise to that kind of adaptation is something that might work "in theory". But I have found that, in practice, it's extremely hard to find. And I don't know that anybody in the profession is looking into the effect that therapy relationships which are "inherently empty, pointless, and degrading" can have to exacerbate things.

Nevertheless, since your therapy is provided by your government, I don't see any harm in trying it -- since you already are aware of some of the potential pitfalls. Who knows? Or -- some folks here have suggested alternatives, maybe those would be better to spend your time and energy on? From my personal experience, though, an OCPD orientation toward life, though sometimes effective at "getting things done" when there is a clear way to to do things does not in general lead to much happiness or fulfillment.

My "defenses" broke down and I was left in a terrible state. If I had had a supportive family or other social environment -- but I didn't. All that's available currently is "therapy", which may not help and sometimes makes things worse. And it's not going to get better unless and until there are people who persist and eventually make it and sound rational and reasonable enough to make a point and overcome massive institutional inertia.

So, working toward that goal is something that seems to me worth doing currently, whether I achieve any measurable success at it or not. I don't know if that will resonate with you or not. Just an idea.
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