Thanks for the feedback, UpDownAround & notz. Yep...Everyone I've spoken with who's had shoulder surgery says it hurts like a (deleted ) for quite some time. I'm pretty sure I'll break down & take the meds. Again, I don't abuse my klonopin, but also know opioids are a different species. I smoked a little reefer back in the day, but alcohol was always my drug of choice...I never popped pills. Thanks for the heads up about the possibility of going back out because of the pain, notz, & thanks for the advice about scarring & it's role in physical therapy after surgery, UpDownAround.