thank you september for the kind reply.

I wonder why so many that I have been exposed to in real life and "it is ALLOT" that are confident in their reservation standing in heaven, talk so much about so many that have been saved, but then fall back into their old ways, I have heard them talking about them many times and it almost always ends in something to the effect that they must never have really been saved...or something to the effect of, " they say their saved but they cant be or they would not still be doing what they were before they were saved, they have to make a noticeable change "...I live in the rual south where probably 98 % have some form of christian belief, so have been exposed to the religion allot.

Obviously I have been around a small handful I'd not describe as above at a few points in time....but usually they are the ones being talked about by the above mentioned groups for something or another

Kind Regards
Eddie