I have been trying to get her to counseling for years. When I said she didn't see it as a turning point, I meant it doesn't seem to phase her that we have discussed it and are at an impasse. She already knew that she was unwilling to consider ever resuming physical or emotional intimacy with me. She has basically become asexual and is fine with it. We did touch on our different viewpoints about retirement and she said it could result in us living apart. The odd thing is she said it like she was saying what's for dinner. I was crying and she was showing no emotion.