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now i know a lot of women would say its the man who fails on this level.....

grrrrr.........

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Thats right, they want to make you the companion they want,in my opinion

You have to jump through hoops at times if you want " IT " and " companionship they have to offer "

sure, a few may have perfect relations, but they probably ain't on a mental health forum talking about it

in my opinion