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Originally Posted by ReptileInYourHead
Lee, “evil in the sense of being in conflict with nature -- survival instinct violated”.
Survival instinct violated is not in conflict with nature...
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I did not say it was...and the fact of a survival instinct being possible to violate without the violation being immoral proves there is "natural evil" within nature.
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Originally Posted by ReptileInYourHead
Survival...is based on violations.
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Yes, so-called "necessary evils" amongst non-humans.
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Some animals eat their own children, but it does not make them evil...
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True, but that does not make the violation of another animal's survival instinct any less evil in relation to the victim.
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Human conceptions are not the same as the animal worlds as far as evil acts and punishment.
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Not all humans have confused conceptions there, just those who believe evil does not exist unless it is moral evil (punishable).
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Originally Posted by ReptileInYourHead
My point is that ‘evil’ is not a natural concept, it seems more likely to be a man made judgement.
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Evil exists within nature, but not at the moral level until we begin talking about human beings (and possibly certain other animals committing evil that is not necessary for survival). But even then, not every human who commits evil is automatically judged to be evil...and that is a great part of what this thread is about since "mentally ill" and "evil person" are not synonymous.
Aside: Animals have a right to be eaten (as a "natural evil" committed against the prey) where humans do not naturally need to consume each other in order to survive.