{{{{{Kathy}}}}} and {{{{{TRM}}}}}

sabby made good sense there

Can you & trm talk about this calmly ? Don't even try if you can't.

(((((trm))))) we know this sounds idiotic, but it would be good if you could learn not to take this personally, but to look on it as an attempt to manipulate kathy which has no connection to you & walk away from confrontation.