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Old Jan 28, 2018, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vibrating Obsidian View Post
I get what you're talking about, but the problem is external stigma. Why? Because were there no stigma from outside, no one would feel bad from inside, too.

Now I'm starting to get what tecomsin means about internalized stigma. But I think we all sought treatment because of forms of social failures. I'm open to hear of otherwise cases
I am glad you see what tecoomsin meant about internalized stigma. Where my mental issues were brought on by outside factors, my trauma, pain and diagnosis had NOTHING to do with the public opinion of mental health (extrenal stigma). My issues were deep seeded, caused by events in my childhood and carried on into my relationships. I also think people in my family have bipolar, (undiagnosed of course), and it was passed down to me.

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Originally Posted by tecomsin View Post
I don't agree with this, or, rather, I think this is too black and white.

My 24/7 problem is what I have internalized and beliefs about myself. It's my state of mind that I have to deal with all the time. Even if one removed all the external social stigma, I'd still have the memories of it in my head... and I would still have internalized social stigma.
Great point! Your feelings are valid and I 100% agree. If I were transplanted out of this society and placed somewhere that was full of peace and harmony, I might be happy for a while, but my illness would follow me wherever I go. I know this for a fact because for me, my biggest challenge is mania, and in a completely accepting, (no stigma), environment, I would still go totally out of my head and be delusional wihtout my medication.
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