My perception... that is rich. Couldn't I also question the validity of your perceptions?

Actually i think at the time my perceptions were totally clouded, being enmeshed in therapy and needing to see them as infallible saviors. Now things are much clearer a few years on, since I am no longer in the game.

Also, all of this becomes much more apparent when you talk to therapists specifically about problems caused by therapy. Then they are forced to reveal their attitudes about all the hierarchical BS and whether they can tolerate being wrong about something meaningful.

This sounds to me pretty much like the facts of what happened to Budfox. Maybe the therapist would "frame" it differently, put different language on it, focus on different aspects.

But somehow that isn't the same to me as a matter of "perception". And that's not saying that all therapy-client experiences are like that, either.

But I believe Budfox. His perspective sounds very plausible to me. It also doesn't sound like anybody in the therapy world did -- or has -- taken his perspectively seriously, "with empathy", stepping into his shoes.

Glad you keep putting it out there, Budfox! Maybe the most you can do. Your story and your experiences need to be taken seriously, in my view.

Maybe what one perceives does depend somewhat on one's point of view, where one "stands", or the position one has been placed in. The point of view, and the person, are still valid, in my view. Even when I disagree.