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Old Feb 15, 2018, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tevelygo View Post
Thanks.

As for mental addiction: uh, I thought I shut it down but I realize now that it just found another outlet to itself. It's an addiction about a goal that's seemingly unachievable... So my mind tries to find a way to "imagine" it can achieve it somehow... and that's my mental addiction. Sorry if that didn't make sense.

I have tried so many therapists. No one ever offered practical usable steps to me. Maybe I'm just a difficult case.

Glad you are feeling better. I'm not sure what this emptiness is like but I'm like, what's the point of just doing things neatly? I mean, I do want to do that but I'm just not able to... no real motivation.
Is that it?



Hm, I was never responsive to medication or to counseling.

I actually relatively easily shut down negative emotions and negative thinking. It just doesn't help with the above issue.

I mean, I guess I mostly do it with the "mental addiction"... that addiction used to give me hope actually. Now it's just kind of something I still keep I guess, or I wouldn't have many places to hide from ****?

I'm also able to directly work through negative feelings, but it's hard work to always try and find some constructive step ahead and thus see hope etc.

Easier on the mind to just do withdrawing. But then no motivation etc.

I still don't know after 6 years as to what I actually need to change. Oh well now this was negative thinking lol but also a fact. I did change a few things btw, of course, but idk what else is to be done... I never know, really. Then in retrospect I can see this or that thing is actually good. But actually none of it has stuck enough to achieve real change overall beyond a very limited scope...

Tbh none of the therapists helped me figure out even those changes. What's so damn hard in my case about getting direct and practical help?

OK I think I do need to stop dumping my thoughts here...

Back on topic.


First....

I think many here would say a therapist should help you figure out what changes you need to make. For this, I think, a therapist with training in CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) is best...OR...

You can use self-help books and workbooks. Do it on your own.

In a way your posts have enlightened me about my situation. There are times to self-reflect, and times to set goals, and activate. I have cleared away a lot of toxic stuff, and now the emptiness is a vacuum waiting to be filled.

No matter what...kind of mental ruminations we have...we can still learn to over-ride them with action. It WILL feel uncomfortable if we have anxiety and have hidden away...but it is actually good to stay with the anxiety while doing the action. This is outlined in both CBT workbooks, and DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) workbooks.

I really can't work with any therapist who doesn't do CBT because I am goal oriented. It sounds like you are, too. You sound like you want to activate but feel stuck. I think this is a common problem.

Maybe when coping gets "stale" it is a sign that one needs to "just get on with it," if that makes sense.

But for you, first, it sounds like you need some clarification and that is something a counselor or therapist is supposed to help you attain.

...OR...

you can start your own thread with some specific questions and just throw them out and see what kind of response you get...
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Thanks for this!
tevelygo