i remember now why agnostics are so universally reviled; it is not because they do NOT BELIEVE, it is because so many of them like to rebuff Believers. i have observed thru this thread that those who DO believe, seem to be more careful in what they say, how they phrase their opinions, than are those who are certain of their non-belief.

as with all things in life, little is CERTAIN, and certainly not a belief. claiming to have scientific evidence for things that cannot even be measured scientifically is not proof~! there is an old saying: those who are certain, are certainly foolish. let us keep an open mind, be careful how we postulate our opinions, and allow for the possibility that even tho we don't KNOW all that much about other dimensions, the rumors are very old and wide-spread.