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Old Apr 05, 2018, 12:04 AM
OblivionIsAtHand OblivionIsAtHand is offline
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What a quasi comfortable place to be in, to reach out to others while convinced they will not be able to offer anything of value.
I'm in an incredibly uncomfortable position right now. Are you mad about this? But you are correct. Because of replies lately on a multitude of forums, I'm somewhat operating under the assumption that they will not be offering much value - but I'm hopeful all the same. Nor have I eschewed anyone's advice. It usually involves a good back-and-forth; you're operating under the assumption that I'm biting the hand that feeds me.

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The remark I made about the 'test' is because that is what your entire post is, a test.
No. No it isn't.

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Consider the concept that no one owes you anything.
Believe me, I do. I never assume anyone wants to help, period.

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then you toss it back.
I never tossed it back. I accepted it, said my thanks for it. Honestly though there hasn't been much advice given to thank yet. If you're talking about spirituality, of course I'm going to decline that advice given that I'm an atheist.

You seem to be of the mind that one, if given advice, should automatically accept it. That we should be without autonomy and self-agency and merely listen.

And to be fair, you said this of your advice:

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There are people here with really good advice. i am not one of them, but hang on, they will get here.

I listen to all advice and appreciate it. But nobody should mistake my questioning or refuting certain points as biting the hand that feeds them.

Let's just use an example: Would you spurn a mentally ill person merely because they had a challenging attitude? That's the nature of the illness. Nobody truly cares my friend.

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Do you read your own posts?
Over and over.

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I'm sorry you are suffering, whether you accept that simple expression or not.
Thanks. Now quit trying to add to my suffering. I'm becoming more and more suicidal. Suicide is so palpable I can feel it. Not a threat, merely a fact. I never thought I'd get to this point, but I love myself too much to stay alive and suffer this much. I'm still hopeful there's a part of me that can get out of this though. I may, for the first time ever in 30 years, start to become a drug addict (outside of the prescriptive drugs); the only thing that takes me away from this immense darkness (which shouldn't even be here because of the lack of gravity concerning my problems). Because I realize these people [drug addicts] don't feel hopeless and ignore advice--I now realize a large part of it is that they probably never even receive advice to begin with.

I'm like an old-timer. Whatever happened to the old days when people would give these amazingly detailed responses that were long and complex in nature? Man that was a great time.

Last edited by OblivionIsAtHand; Apr 05, 2018 at 01:07 AM.