hmm...

This thread is getting interesting and excuse me if i interrupt with some philosophy of the "ultimate reality" or the "minimalistic"..as i call it.

I agree with you. youOme, and with Gacey too. I agree with both of you....

Now...good and bad are all made up. youOme has some facts..that she stated. Gacey reacted. everyone has the right to react the way he reacts- ho yes- i rememebr how i call it the objective phylisiphy. it IS hard to agree about it when it`s such a personal issue...and from what i see...

FACTS ARE FACTS

Now- HOW do you see it?

Gracey - this and that is not alright.
youOme - i am desperat.e he doesn`t do anything.

But the Myspalce pics and theinfo you brought us were just facts.

OUR thoughts and beliefs about those facts are the htings that may get US in trouble. For every time i find myself getting from what simple and natural and start judgin htings I DO SUFFER. Or judge some1 else = this is whe we believe about the storie we tell ourselves about the facts.this is what kitty bayron says.

Has anybody read "To Love What There Is" by Ketty Bayron?
Wounderful book - just to BE AWARE of the fact that there is WAHT IS and there are OUR THOUGHTS about it.. So - Garcey - really there are 1000000 of ways to see those pics on myslpace and other things.

What i agree about, however, is what you are saying in the end-
We - and beleive me - youOme- i CAN BE EXACTLY LIKE YOU- with other issues -
we can post here or on other forums - and this can be useful for expression, sharing problems with friends....maybe getting some advices...

BUT IN THE END

The changes you are going or not going to make - are UP TO YOU

What a kiss or whatever means to you?
It looks like.....you want attention, love.not just a %#@&#!.
There is one thing i know about love ..may not experience yet but still

"Become the source of which you desire "
Have you tried to show love or effection or whatever to your hasband or whatever it is that you want....when you GIVE waht you want..and you can give it to your kinds too, if you htink your husband refuses....give your kids some more attention some more toys somehting that will make them happy..a hug a hike a new toy a smile.

*notice that by sugesting it i am not saying you don`t do it enoguh...but when you give what you need you BECOME what you need...and the universe sends this to you with a double dosage.

So if now you say "i am a victim, i am trying but nohting is there..it`s all HIM....you get more and more of THAT. our thoguhts and feelings exists at the same level of existence with the deed....the fact that we cannot see them doesn`t mean they donthave influence.

i think that going to a therapist on your own can be good too. I fyou feel you need to talk about it. With some1 objective..

Think of it EVEN if your hasband refused. don`t YOU deserve help when you need it?
don`t YOU DESERVE to feel better?
I had a problem with my parents, but i went to theraphy alone and today..i am quite fine...so they are.

I wish you all the best..whichever path you choose