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Old Apr 16, 2018, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rose76 View Post

Option #3 seems unattainable because you're in the habit of assuming that people know what they want, mean what they say and can't possibly be talked into a different way of looking at things. Your mom and sis have you well-trained. You are trained to think: "I must conform to what is wanted of me by someone else." and - because you respect the rights of others - "I must not jeopardize another person living out their dream."

If Mary Todd Lincoln thought like you, Abraham Lincoln would never have become president. She had to push him into it. (Abe was prone to depression and wasn't interested in being too ambitious.) This boyfriend of yours is a confused young man scared of life. He is exactly the sort of man who tends to be a poor judge of what possibilities life can hold. This has a lot to do with why he is chronically depressed - "severely." He contemplates all the chances of all that can go wrong in life. He's able to work on a doctoral degree because there's really nothing much wrong with his brain. But there's something wrong with his thinking. He needs a strong, clear-sighted woman who is unwilling to follow him down the road to an emotionally impoverished life. You need to stop following and start leading! I think you are a person with a healthier mind (than he has) who could steer this relationship in the direction of a richly satisfying life, if you would stop being the submissive one and take hold of the reins.

I'm not saying you should just defy him, but don't be ready to accept his terms so easily. Ask yourself if he is someone who would be irresponsible in the care of a child. Is he irresponsible in general? Does he pay his bills on time? Does he maintain his vehicle properly? My guess is that he would probably do just fine with fatherhood. Does he have a reasonable capacity for compassion? If he's a cold-hearted, irresponsible guy, then you don't want him for a husband. But, if he makes you feel well-loved, then he would probably do just fine with a child. I'm not saying "Force him." But lots of people have wound up being very successful at something they had to be kind of persuaded into doing. If your guy managed to be nice to your meddling mom and sis who don't like him, but he cooks them breakfast and chauffers them around, then I don't see him becoming miserable toward a child of his own. Yes, there are people who should never have kids. That would be people who are grossly immature, violent, substance abusing, irresponsible, cruel, can't hold down a job, are in terrible health and so on. It doesn't sound like he is anything like that. Maybe he isn't Mr. Rogers. Most dads aren't. I heard a saying once, "The most important thing a man can do for his children is to love their mother."
That is terrible advice - basically marry him and then nag him? My ex did the nagging thing for some time at the end, it didn't have the desired effect. It just made it easier to recognize that he was never going to take my feelings, which I had made clear many times, seriously.

Rose76, you really seem to have a negative opinion of people that don't want kids (comments like emotionally impoverished life), probably projecting since you are unhappy with not having them. There are plenty of people that don't have children, are happy with that decision and live full lives.
Thanks for this!
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