That is an awesome idea sunrise, only I'm having trouble getting him to bring the subject up again with the man that borrowed them period. I don't understand why he's embarrassed, he didn't do anything wrong, nor is he by requesting the kids property back. I'll tell you a secret, I know the man, he actually worked with me not hubby (same place, different departments) and I"M thinking of calling him. I know that this will make my husband VERY unhappy, but I don't see him leaving me with any alternative.