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Old May 21, 2018, 12:46 PM
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I don’t think saying something at the outset that you think is true and then realizing later that you were wrong is “dishonest.” What’s important is honesty in the moment.
I didn't say that him admitting to feeling uncomfortable with the client's talking about her transference is dishonest. What I said is that him not taking responsibility for the fact that HIS feelings prevent him from doing his work. It's okay for him to say that he is uncomfortable with what she is asking him to do, but it's his professional/ethical duty to acknowledge IMMEDIATELY that his feelings pose a problem for their future work together. As it was mentioned before, LT's therapy is not about her T's feelings and needs but about LT's feelings and needs that, at the moment, could not be fulfilled. If the T is uncomfortable doing what LT asks him to do, the only honest thing for him to do in this case is to flatly refuse to fulfill her request instead of playing a game of "I need to think about it". If he just refused, she wouldn't have a false hope that he might give her what she needs, which he clearly can't and won't. Then she'd at least have a choice of what to do about it.

Now, she is taking it upon herself to "fix" it. She makes it entirely her responsibility to make therapy work for her because he is not taking responsibility for his own choices.

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People change. One day someone says to someone else, “I love you.” And it’s true for them right then and there. Then six months later they realize that’s not true for them anymore. That doesn’t make the earlier statement a lie.
This has nothing to do with the situation we are discussing here. Here we are talking about a professional relationship where the feelings of a professional aren't allowed the same space they are allowed in other relationships. For a therapist, there is no right to follow a "free flow" of their feelings and to allow their feelings and their needs to occupy much space in therapy as it happens in other relationships. In other relationships people don't have a duty to make the well being of the other person a priority, but in certain professions a practitioner has this duty. A therapist is supposed to base their actions on the merits of professional and ethical standards, not just on how they feel at the moment. If, at the moment, the therapist's feelings don't allow him to do the work he is supposed to do, his ethical responsibility to the client is to honestly admit that he is not able to continue the work the way she needs it to continue.

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And I think for LT to be able to change these patterns she wants to change she needs him to tell her where he’s uncomfortable and why, as opposed to just waving her on a la MC.
I am not going to speak for LT. I assume, she is capable of speaking for herself. And IF she needs him to tell her where he's uncomfortable and why, that's exactly what he is not doing, and that's exactly what I call dishonest.

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What would be dishonest is if he kept pretending he was comfortable with it.
As I said, I don't think him telling her he is uncomfortable was dishonest. What was dishonest was not to explain why he was uncomfortable and to give her a false hope that he might be able to do what she wants by promising to "think about it" instead of simply refusing to do it. This left her feel that she has some control over this situation and that if she, somehow, is able to "explain" her needs to him better, that would make him "understand", would change his feelings and he'd do what she wants him to do. As I said in my previous post, no amount of "splaining" would make the guy do what he clearly doesn't want to do, but if he continues to be dishonest, I bet LT would continue to feel responsible for how therapy goes, which she absolutely should not because she has no responsibility in this whatsoever.

And, by the way, "honesty" doesn't have to be insulting and shaming. Telling someone that their feelings are "creepy" is a genuinely shaming and hurtful comment to make, ESPECIALLY for a therapist. This has nothing to do with "honestly" but with a total lack of empathy and basic respect.
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