Hi everyone. Well, Hubbies G4 needed to go to check permissions which is defrag in P.C. language. Got his online and printing fine. My G4 powerbook is being odd and is taking a trip to the dealer. Tuesday when the P.O. is open or sooner if I drive it. I have never had this kind of issue with Mac but at least I have feedback and help. Thanks, for now I am back on my flawless G3. Okay, bit slower, no biggie. I use 10.4.11 on all I think. alas, I have been let down by a Mac. I may have to cry. Thanks.