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Old Jul 26, 2018, 05:08 PM
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Did R say this?
" I guess you want me to apologize, for what's happened for making a mistake. What good is an apology if there's no hope for forgiveness? If I apologized now - it would be me being humiliated, and I would express anger, venom and hatred."

It is interesting that if he apologised, and you didnt forgive him, he would feel humiliated. That is very strong, maybe too strong to give that much power to a client. You know I love R, but I dont really agree with the intensity he has here. It seems like he was off his game, and really did feel badly. I bet he feels guilty about leaving you for "vacay". I know it is wrong, but it enrages me how much some T's take vacations.

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Originally Posted by Lemoncake View Post
I just finished with R. I don't have everything down 100%

I thought that originally I was supposed to see him on tuesday the 31st as well as he gave me the dates of the 1st- 27th of august. He said today was our last session.

I burst out crying right from the start, because it felt sudden and I didn't expect it.

R: "I do want to make this better. I don't want you going into this break thinking that I'm unreliable or angry. I'm a human being who makes mistakes, but I want to try to make things better."

Guilt, confusion and shame were powerful feelings, better that he had them than me.

S: It was your responsibility to make sure we were on the same page.

R: I'm supposed to keep up with changed session times, and missed sessions. In an ideal world maybe I would have. You don't trust me, why do you keep coming? I need you to trust me now, that this doesn't have to be hopeless.

S: Do you want my pin and my online banking details too?

He sighed.

R: You call me a fraud, accept no responsibility blame him, reinforce beliefs even though I didn't get better. So I could have the sense that I was right.

S:You said the 1st to the 27th. I assumed that I would also see you on tuesday.

R: Well I stand with what I said. In an ideal world, not substituting and switching sessions. boundaries and keeping agreements ( this is about me not wanting to do three sessions over two long term- but I can't justify the cost unless i'm in a very very low place).

S: okay then.

R: I guess you want me to apologize, for what's happened for making a mistake. What good is an apology if there's no hope for forgiveness? If I apologized now - it would be me being humiliated, and I would express anger, venom and hatred.

S:Yes because that's all I am. (more crying)

R:I've seen the good in you, encouraged you to develop and grow. In this moment I see child part 7 and older part who doubts me.I was going to see you on tuesday, but since you find it impossible for me for me to offer you anything without you beating me around the head and putting the time to good use.

S: If I'm special why don't you take better care of me?

R:In your world people constantly making judgements, so I made judgments about others. I was confused, people were okay then no good. That I had a strong desire to be special being ordinary was no good. If you behave like your so special everyone else is destined to fail. Doesn't have to be one or the either. You don't have to let people walk all over you- but you don't have to set standards so high.

S: The quote from the little prince "I did not understand anything, I ought to have judged my deeds and not words."

R: I was busy judging someones deeds, look at what he was offering. I'm prepared to accept so I want to make it up to you, honoring an agreement. Both be people who didn't honor agreements. I'd pass up the session.

S:You're on holiday.

R: You'll hate me.

S: I already hate you.

R: I'll call you on tuesday, I'm sorry this has happened it's still surprising to me.

S: I hope you have a wonderful holiday.

I don't want to see him on Tuesday after this session.
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