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Old Aug 19, 2018, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by amicus_curiae View Post
No, no, no! Please be cautious in your use of programming, programmed, and design, etc. Those words suggest a programer and designer, a theological construct that I (and I’m not alone on this) reject. I know that I’m beating the Darwinian evolution equine, but he’s still galloping, not dead. Our odd sexuality — and even amongst the asexual reproducers — is evolutionary. Not at all by design! Yes, in many species, reproductive activities are pleasurable but, I believe, the desire (!) to procreate is evolutionarily, even unconsciously, innate. As pop culture says, we want to churn out little versions of ourselves (if only because of an unconscious fear of death and a wholly irrational desire to live beyond death). That’s the science behind the continuation of our feeble species, I think.

Genetics. No, again, not programming, yet, though it’s fast becoming possible. What we pass on is our mutated genetic code. Is it random? Sometimes. More often than not, though, we unconsciously select prostitutes and life-partners because they have genetic traits that we find desirable; traits of being well-bred and capable of breeding well. Evolutionarily innate. That’s science. Far from seeking variety, we seek good health and other traits for our potential progeny, going so far as to , again, unconsciously, evaluate the parents of potential life-partners.

Yes, certainly, artists represent and can enhance the ways in which we stumble through our limited lives. But it’s, maybe, just stimuli of our finite consciousness that leads us to enjoy such fabulous distractions.
Yes, programs/programming imply design & a designer - let's tackle that one, right away...

Say the universe began from a point of singularity, the ole big bang... Applying the scientific/logical processes currently available to us would then lead us to consider, what/who laid in place the matter/energy/sequence of events to initiate that big bang? Then we have to to consider what/who laid in place the matter/energy/sequence of events to initiate that initiation? And so on. Matter/energy, as we understand them, don't atrophy into nothing, nor can they spontaneously arise from nothing.

Until a credible theory is evolved to explain that conundrum, it is logical to see the timeline of the universe as a series of consequential events. The element of design/designer comes in, because we do not yet have any other way to explain the initiation of that series of consequential events.

And that series of consequential events is a program. Remember, a running program does not automatically imply a predetermined program end, if that program is capable of run-time modification, either via it's own coding (intentional self modification), or by external factors (coding errors/data corruption/not enough lead in the solder flux/Vogon bypass construction).
Thanks for this!
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