i have looked at your post and wanted to reply but am having a hard time expressing my thoughts in words lately... it's great that you can refocus your thoughts... and your right the pain we cause others because of our choice to si is a very good reason to stop... i don't think anyone knows i cut... but i know that when i am struggling to the place of si... i isolate myself from them... and that hurts them just the same way... my son came to me the other day and asked..."mom, what are we doing wrong?" that kind of pulled me out of it... and i realized that my needing to isolate... to withdraw was hurting them...they are adults... so it's very easy for me to pull inside myself...yes, there are things that they are doing that add to my stress...but, they aren't the reason for my anxiety and depression...lyn