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Hmmmmmmmmmmm..... ok Sunrise, Perna.... so then what is the difference between "A. The presence of two or more distinct identities or personality states (each with its own relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self.) "

...and DID co-consciousness??!!?

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Kiya, you can have co-consciousness with an ego state. That is the only way I have with mine. If I didn't have co-consciousness, I wouldn't be aware of them (unless there is some other way I don't know about). But with DID alters, they can "take over" as in "B" in the DSM description.

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So is an "ego state" the birth place of a DID alter?

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">Yes, absolutely! You got it! Often ego states split off due to childhood trauma. They become differentiated from the main personality as a defense against traumatic events. But just remember, they are "A" only, not "B" in the DSM DID definition.

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Is DID co-consciousness" a regression of full blown DID back down into know ego states that then communicate?

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">I am not a DID expert so I don't know about the regression you mentioned. I know more about ego states since that is what I have. I have co-consciousness with my ego states and from reading a bit, that seems common. But with alters they can "run the show" on their own and the other alters may "lose time" so they wouldn't be co-conscious at that time. When I have talked to my ego states, I just do it in my head. When T talks to them, he has to go through me. I relay the messages back and forth. This is called in the therapeutic lingo, "talking through." Also, some of my ego states have relationships with each other without my knowing about it (unless they tell me). That was a surprise to me, that inside I am a web of relationships and some of them I am not even part of. As my T said last time, isn't the psyche amazing?

My T wanted to know how I communicate with my male ego state. He wanted to know where we "meet". He asked if we met on a stage. ???? I said, no, just in my head. He also wanted to know if I saw this ego state (no, but I have seen the girls), heard his voice (yes), or what. I guess different people experience different things.

Just remember, it's all a continuum along the dissociation scale. So yes, ego states "come before" DID alters on the scale.

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i'm gonna need some popcorn and a soda for this one

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">It is fascinating, isn't it?