I know I need to use online resources more. You can find just about anything on YouTube. I always forget about it. The progressive body relaxation seemed to work when I did it years before, so hopefully, I will have better luck with that one and keep trying the deep breathing, maybe one of these days. I got close, but just couldn't without panicking. I guess, too, the #1 symptom of my panic attacks is not having enough air to breathe. Then, all the other panic symptoms quickly follow. But the breathing is the first one every time.