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Default Dec 06, 2018 at 11:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by octoberful View Post
It's not just intellectual understanding though-it's experiential (not sure if that's the right word). I was trying to get at that with Here today in that it may be more of an implicit felt experience or believing rather than explicit understanding.

Intellectualization did keep me together when i was experiencing emotional flooding, so it wasn't merely a curiosity but it worked in a positive way. You and I are much different in those regards-I've heavily in my emotions (but use isolation), but it's not balanced. And although I'm a very analytical person, it seems to be one or the other. Therapy has helped integrate...

Having an observing ego is good and even necessary to tolerate psychoanalytic therapy, I believe. If you didn't have that, everything would be egosyntonic, where you'd have no awareness. But I think as a defense, intellectualization can have an adverse affect on one day to day in terms of being mindful. It can keep people as an observer of life rather than living in it, similar to depersonalization. So for those prone, analytic therapy can worsen that. You can talk about the transference rather than 'be in it' in terms of therapeutic space. I think this is the other side of the coin of being overly emotional.

Being an observer and not participant in the world around them is a schizoid trait that is accompanied by anhedonia, lack of motivation/procrastination, flat affect, and detachment. Loosening up defenses so one is in an emotional mindset more can help with that. A better regulated ego has balance. But I think of defense mechanisms differently than others here, so I won't go on about it. But it's something I have a deep interest in because it impacts the way your whole mind works, sense of self, and how you relate to others.
This is a really great post, thank you. I definitely have schizoid streaks, it is much better now than when I was much younger though. One way to overcome/improve it is via things that I am really passionate about it and not just in an analytical/curiosity interest type way. I don't have that issue about being either emotional or analytical really, in my internal world and significant relationships/interactions it's all mixed and integrated pretty well, I think. What I do have is becoming detached, overly pure-observing and more schizoid-like when I am very anxious, uncertain and insecure (how it is a defense). So it is more an issue about coping with anxiety effectively or in self-defeating ways.

I really doubt that I would ever be able to truly be emotional with a therapist due to the imbalanced and limited structure of therapy. I think the max I could use it is for consultation about specific issues. But I can use ordinary, everyday 3D world (in person) relationships very well for complex experiences, especially people I respect a lot and have a close relationship with. So that's how I do it. It would also never work much online - again, because of its limitations.

Thanks again for your thoughts, I very much appreciate it
 
 
Thanks for this!
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