you guys? can i interject? this is a thread for grieving and there are emotions and confusions related to loss....

lets be civil please? this is an important topic to us all i believe and there is some healthy way to grieve...

i'm pretty sure forgiveness is included in the process... and i can understand how we cant just jump there sometimes... we're human...

but, the spirit of the thread is love..... i know sky, coral, and many thousands have suffered..... this dialogue can help i think....

the 'sins of the father' come to mind..... if there is to be a peace in the valley for us all... i just wanna express how important it is to be civil... so we can listen and learn... as i am trying to do also...

i do appreciate how those who are and have been disturbed are trying to find agreements.. i strongly believe it exists in a few slim strands of considerate thoughtfulness for each other despite the wrongs of the past....

all of us... all the souls who suffer.... this is important.. can we end the suffering please ? i pray..... before its not too late......