i feel its a good discussion to have if we are suffering from a spiritual past that at times was harmful and others have traumatized and with a continuing downward spiral in Earths physiology, i feel a healing of these human sufferings might help... we could put energy towards greater uses than arguing and hating.....

the nymbers of sufferers are great and a powerful front when united... i am finding this thread empowering and i thoughtfully remind myself of many friends not present to speak... what i have to say is what they might have to say themselves if they were here...

God rest their souls...