spiritual_emergency said:
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It can be helpful to understand that the shadow isn't comprised merely of the unsavory characteristics we might not want to see in ourselves. It also contains a great deal of pain and rage over the things we may have experienced.
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i can relate to that s_e ... what is beyond me will pass thru me in the way of experiences.... i may never have visited a (popular brand name department store here) in Hong Kong.. but, i have known Chinese people.... and i've been to the local (depart store name here) within the USA.... so, in my mind, there is some relational experience of something i've never actually experienced in first person...
moodyblu said:
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You will blindly hold your “history book” aloft as a light…but stumble in the darkness over the projections of your own “shadow“.
My .02...on this 'subject"....
m.b.
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beautifully said moodyblu....
Rapunzel said:
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One thing that is a challenge for all of us at one time or another is to open up our thinking enough to look from someone else's perspective. It is easy to see ourselves as victims. Many of us have been victims far too much, and we have learned to defend ourselves to try to keep from being hurt again. It isn't so easy to see how our defenses might affect someone else who also has been a victim, and now may feel victimized by our actions or words. That is the kind of thinking shift that needs to happen though. Imagine the difference it would make in the world if everyone were able to shift freely from a narrow perspective of themselves as a victim to themselves wielding power that they can choose to use to heal rather than destroy. I know it is idealistic, but I keep hoping that maybe we can start here. And I think that we have.
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i believe you are talking about seeing ourselves as connected... as in a global community.... and able to empower ourselves... sure, it takes work and time, but, is it really impossible?
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There is another good word for that....it's simple called "empathy".
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once again.. i like that moodyblu : )
s_e said:
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I have a tendency to speak from my own experience and that includes ego collapse/fragmentation so I use those terms quite a bit. As a result of that experience, I can sometimes have difficulties with ego boundaries as well -- lack of empathy is seldom my problem although sometimes, too much empathy is. I've had to relearn what boundaries are since then.
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empathetic ego boundaries? .. i like the idea.. you were also the one s_e who had contributed 'respectful regard for others' into a thread at one time... i like the ideas...
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I'm glad you decided to join us. It's a "darker" topic than many others here and perhaps won't sit easily with everyone for that reason, but everyone's certainly welcome.
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certainly its dark.... to me it feels like the social and environmental conditions are on a collision course... necessitating conversations such as these more than ever...
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I wonder sometimes if people really do care for children, or if it's just a slogan. If we did, we (adults) wouldn't be fighting so much with each other, and we'd take better care of the environment. We would serve as examples to our children. As it is now, it looks like we're leaving them an awful mess to clean up.
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someone had to say that Kathy... thank you.... well... the question now becomes... are we the adults?
muffy said:
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no one should ever look away..........................
As I have said over and over we all matter
I know you think that too......
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