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Old Mar 14, 2019, 07:14 PM
TheUrOther TheUrOther is offline
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No one is siding with your abusers, a high percentage of members here have been victims and do understand the challenge and would not want you to think they are saying abuse is acceptable on any level.
Lots of people side with my abusers. Even if it were no one here, you cannot say no one is siding with them. Abuse is the accepted norm for society. And you're not doing anything about it, so your inaction is as good as consent, because ends in the same results. All things that end in the same results must be treated equally, or nothing will ever get better.

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It's damn hard when someone has so much abuse in their head and they wish they could somehow connect a camera to their brain so other people can witness it and get angry too.
I don't know where you went with this, but that's not how I feel. I just want people to stop abusing me, and I know the only ways to do that is to either disincentive abuse by punishing abusers, or making abuse physically impossible by crippling them. Nothing else is effective.

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Yet it's important that you don't get SO ANGRY that you punish others who really don't deserve it. Just because someone isn't responding the way you need it, doesn't mean that person deserves to be hurt.
This isn't about anger; this is about incentives. If I don't incentivize people to take abuse seriously, they're going to allow and encourage abuse. That's how people work.

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More often than not, all it means is the other person just doesn't know.
Me not knowing was never an acceptable excuse - I would get punished for everything I did not know. Why do others deserve to be ignorant without punishment, yet the same standard doesn't apply to me?

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And often the truth about "why" others don't do something is they are afraid too.
Again, never allowed as an excuse. I got punished for everything I did not do - brutally. Why do others get to be lazy without fear of punishment, yet the same standard doesn't apply to me?

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You keep thinking people are telling you to give in to your abuser and that is not what they are saying.
No, I don't. You think my abusers should go ahead and kill me, and that they are justified in doing so. Whether I resist or not is immaterial; the fact is you think your lives would be better without the threat of my existence.

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It really sounds like you have been bullied, been hurt, been victimized and no one HELPED YOU OR STOOD UP FOR YOU.
Yes, exactly. And the fact that, after forty years, no one has competently helped me proves beyond a shadow of doubt that no one will - why the heck would they suddenly, magically change now, except as a case of mockery?

Humanity has established a solid track record of abuse, neglect, and rejection. To suggest that any member of a species under the rule of a tyrannical society would ever change and not be any of those in the future is simply absurd; there is no previously-existing evidence of such behavior, and I soundly reject the practices of faith or hope, or believing that wanting something to happen will make it come true. Thinking people will change or be different from one another is simply not logical.