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Old Mar 16, 2019, 07:59 AM
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But no punishment won't work - humans need the carrot and the stick.
Sounds to me as though you are much more interested in administering the stick, though.

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Also, the fact they consider themselves "socially acceptable" yet don't consider us so is literally what makes them bad - that is the definition of their badness. They're willing to ostracize us based on what they did to us - how can they be considered anything but bad?
There is no such thing as 'bad' -- it is misleading to use the word. There are things, and then there are our feelings about them. When we can fully feel what we feel, then we can also think about them more clearly. We can consider them to be, not 'bad' but disordered.

My experience is that there are a whole lot of people who do not think clearly about emotional disorders, who have them but do not recognize it. It is characteristic of emotional damage that it causes thinking to be discarded in favor of pure reactive emotion. It is part of the way we are built. Seems to me that there are lots and lots of them in the world -- we have only to pay attention to what is happening in our societies to see it. Sometimes it feels as though it is everybody -- including a lot of supposed "professionals". I hope it is not everybody -- some of us are trying to find a way out, a way where we too do not react only out of instant emotion (instinct), but try to think about things.

It is hard.
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