i just want to say good for you Rhapsody for sticking up for yourself and other wounded friends..

and good for you 50guy for sticking up for good men...

you both could meet in the middle?

i know its hard... sorry if this upsets anyone... imo, you arent that far apart from each other... each of you is respecting yourself and a group of good friends... so... why not join in with each other in a way.. let each exist?

50guy.. imo, you have a choice... defend men and potentially wound women, or temporarily choose empathy, kindness and care for the people who hurt here.. and we come in all styles...

let them do what they need to heal? can we? i just feel like the people we are, the defenders and caretakers we seem to want to be... shouldnt we allow them freedom to feel best? they dont want to hurt us.. just express their pain.. right?