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Iloivar
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Default May 18, 2019 at 12:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by seesaw View Post
I think if you search the forums for this phrase, or "constructive criticism" you will see this topic has come up quite a few times.

I'm not sure I really understand what the definition of "tough love" really is, as I've heard it described in a variety of ways. But what I will say is that feedback that introduces an opposing viewpoint or a new perspective can be very helpful; however, it must be delivered with sensitivity and at the right time. I also think that many times people just think they are contributing to discussion, have no tough love or ill will intended at all, but due to the state of mind of the OP, a harsh response is given to the suspected "tough love."

I think we all just have to accept that sometimes, due to the nature of this public forum, we will hear things we don't want to hear. It's for us to discern what is useful or not useful, thank all for their time in responding, and move on. This is an exercise for many of us, myself included, in not reading into things. I know I have, in the past, read into things due to my fragile state of mind at the time. Looking back, I was kind of like, "what was I so upset about?" Now I try to just scroll past anything that starts to upset me, either read it later or just hit the thanks button and don't respond.

On the other hand, I have seen times where someone insists on being helpful and invades another's boundaries in their attempt to be helpful. I know I try to gauge whether the OP is wanting to hear suggestions in whatever vein that is, but I think sometimes I don't always consider the context of where they are at. I think it's helpful if we all consider context before responding.

I guess I'd need to understand what you mean by "tough love" to be more specific in my response. I think it's fine to offer a dissenting perspective or opposing perspective if it's done with sensitivity and kindness. I think often tough love, whatever it is, is done in a far too blunt manner, even rude and cruel.

So...I suppose that was entirely unhelpful.
Straight out of wikipedia.

"The phrase tough love is believed to have originated with Bill Milliken's book of the same title[a] in 1968.[1][2][3][4][b] It is an expression used when someone treats another person harshly or sternly with the intent to help them in the long run.

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Bill Milliken described tough love through the expression, "I don't care how this makes you feel toward me. You may hate my guts, but I love you, and I am doing this because I love you."[5][1]

Milliken strongly emphasizes that a relationship of care and love is a prerequisite of tough love, and that it requires that caregivers communicate clearly their love to the subject.[1] Maia Szalavitz believes, based on her own experience, that this may be difficult, since some people experiencing addiction consider themselves unworthy of love and find it difficult to believe others love them.[6][1]

In most uses, there must be some actual love or feeling of affection behind the harsh or stern treatment to be defined as tough love. For example, genuinely concerned parents refusing to support their drug-addicted child financially until he or she enters drug rehabilitation would be said to be practicing tough love.[7][8]

Tim Hawkes has described tough love as putting "principles before popularity" and allowing loved ones to learn through failure.["

So what you describe at the end is what is considered tough love, and is the target of my questions.
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