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Old May 28, 2019, 02:02 PM
Louella Louella is offline
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Originally Posted by ArtleyWilkins View Post
What you describe sounds very much like much of my therapy. For me, this was a type of dissociation, a coping mechanism I had developed in childhood to disconnect from things that were frightening to me. As an adult, it wasn't a particularly healthy coping mechanism, and was particularly a problem in therapy where the topics and discussions where so focused on the most intimate and traumatic aspects of my life.

Your therapist is just getting to know you, and is learning your general affect, your responses to stressors, and will probably address the zoning at eventually. You aren't doing anything wrong, and therapists see this pretty frequently.

If you can bring it up to your therapist, he should be able to help you understand what is happening and work with you on grounding techniques when you and/or he realize it is happening. Over time, I did become better at staying more present, but it takes time to be able to do that.

When my therapist saw this happening, he did a variety of things depending on how bad it was. I remember
1. Him opening or closing the window blinds. I think he was moving in the room to change my focus, and the blind change often was when I was staring at the window (there was a personal story behind this that he knew about me that was associated with this).
2. Sometimes he just called my name and asked me to look at him. It wasn't so much about eye contact as it was in changing my focus.
3. He would stop and have me name concrete objects in the room to get me grounded.
4. He would have me stand up or move to a different chair.
5. Breathing. I tended to hold my breath when I was like that. He worked with me to just get me breathing regularly and deeply.

Sometimes the dissociation was much more severe than that, and the techniques might be more interventional, but most of the time he was very cognizant of my dissociation and careful to keep me as grounded as possible.

Thanks for replying and sharing your experiences Artley, it’s nice to know I’m not alone.

I’m going to go to the next appointment and try and make an effort to make and maintain eye contact to see if that might help.

He hasn’t said anything about the zoning out yet if that’s what it is. He did tell me about grounding techniques in relation to flashbacks.

It’s good that you are able to stay more present now, I hope I will be able to do that so I feel more present and part of the process rather than a half asleep bystander.

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Originally Posted by SlumberKitty View Post
This sounds like dissociation to me as well. It is something that I deal with in session, and in life. One thing for me is to press my feet firmly against the ground and let myself feel that connection to the ground. It reminds me that I'm here, I'm in the present, and I'm currently safe. I do suggest talking to T so that T can help find ways with you that will help you not get triggered and thus go into dissociation and what to do when it does happen. I used to tell T, I'm getting dissociated, or she would ask me and I would tell her that I was dissociated. After a while she could tell, but I don't think she could tell at the beginning. HUGS Kit
Thanks SlumberKitty for replying.

I always cross my legs at the appointment and when it happens I feel like I’m stuck and can’t move so I’m not sure if I could actually
Move and put my feet on the floor but I could try. It’s good that you have found something that helps you, I’m hoping I can figure out how I can stop doing it too.

I can’t really remember what we were talking about but it happened in the second half of the session. He did say did I want to talk about the trauma I mentioned at the first appointment (we haven’t spoken about it at all yet) but I can’t remember if it started getting bad before or after he said that.

It sounds like you and your t have a great relationship and she really helps you in sessions. Hopefully I can start working on it and staying in the session, at the moment I feel like I’m not getting the most out of it.
Thanks for this!
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