HappyCrafter,

The shame I am talking about is coming from the other side of the coin, from having abused others in the past and having nowhere to turn to, not even PC, because it is against the rules. At least that is how I read the community guidelines.

What I'm saying is many people will quite readily see themselves as victims (and once they were when they were children) but not as perpetrators. That's how the cycle can continue unabated.

Yes I do a 12 step program. It is called emotions anonymous. It helps me get through my days and face my character defects as well as strengths.

Can I ask you not to do that @ thing anymore as I get notifications for being 'mentioned' and it is just extra clicks for me as I will see your replies anyway.

Thanks,

tecomsin