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Originally Posted by theoretical
It takes practice. Conversationality is a skill.
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A skill I can't develop because no one treats me as an equal - which only gets worse as my skill falls behind the age-appropriate average.
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Originally Posted by theoretical
That you see someone coming up and talking to you as a "trespass" is concerning. That you fail to see how this negatively affects your interpersonal relationships is even more concerning.
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It's not so much that I "fail" to see, it's that my moral code precedes everything else - including my very existence. I refuse to behave as barbarically as other people, no matter the cost. If I have to barge into people like a raider, that says more about humanity's moral bankruptcy than it does about any shortcoming I have. I want to be accepted, but I cannot accept
myself if I act as badly as my abusers.
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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
When the body is stuck in anticipation of being attacked, it's extremely hard for the frontal lobe and executive part of the brain to function normally.
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I'm not "stuck in anticipation of being attacked" in the sense that I'm always adrenalized. My predictions come from the logical analysis of scientific knowledge of human behavior applied to how people have consistently treated me in the past. I'm not panicking; I'm
resigned to be treated badly and to be verbally or physically attacked. My "executive function" is operating fine. I have no problem living my life as long as no one else kicks my sandcastles over (i.e. actively and intentionally interfere with my life) but people can't seem to help themselves.
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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
I am thinking that UrOther not even being able to discuss episodic must mean there is so much there he is reactive to a lot of things. Just composing his thoughts in writing like this for him IS a big deal. That's why he is so reactive, we must recognize this about him.
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This does not describe me. I can
discuss anything; I simply can't
remember chains of events because my brain takes apart all events and analyzes them piece-by-piece, then stores the
analysis and throws away the events. My memory is near-photographic for
still pictures, but all
events are decomposed into their ingredients. It's like watching a movie and only remembering the cast list afterward - except no one ever told me their names when I was young, so I can't remember names now either. So I remember individual acts, stripped of their context.
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Originally Posted by Poiuytl
People never feel as threatened by sadness, and become slightly more willing to cooperate. Because it makes them happy to help a sad person, just as it makes them happy to attack an angry person.
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You are correct that people are not threatened by sadness; you are incorrect that they would be triggered to help. People only see weakness in sadness; they only see vulnerable prey ready for slaughter. Every time I have been sad in public I am mocked incessantly, when I'm not simply assaulted.
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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
If a person experienced a lot of traumas since early childhood they may be so traumatized they don't even remember it in an episodic way.
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This is correct for me; my assault was so consistent and exclusive that remembering individual events was a waste of energy - I had to economize and turn my memorization engine into a mass
meat grinder in order to process it all fast enough and be able to out-guess my opponents.
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Originally Posted by Open Eyes
A person can be so sensitive as TheUrOther describes they can barely interact vocally normally. Some try therapy but end up disassociating, those patents are very hard to treat for example.
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I don't interact vocally because I was punished every time I used my voice - either by my parents or by my peers. Staying silent was my best strategy.
Also, I have never disassociated in my life - I've had to face life at full volume with not so much as eyelids to dim it. People have done the equivalent of shove a firehose in my face and wonder why I'm drowning.
Incidentally, what would it say if a patient
could not disassociate? What brain injury would that reveal? Does anyone know?