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Old Jun 30, 2019, 03:25 PM
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Can abuse be prevented / What power does the victim have, if any?

Everyone seems to agree that knowledge and education are important factors in preventing abuse. No arguments there. As TunedOut stated, knowledge is power. Before we can do anything else, we must first be able to see an abusive situation for what it is.
Open Eyes and divine1966 also brought up some very good points - that there are many different types of abuse, many different types of abusers, and many different types of victims. All of these factors come into play, so I’d go one further and say that we need not only know the “red flags” of abuse, but also the different types of abuse. The various shades of red, so to speak. As divine mentioned, what power a victim has isn’t always clear. A young child is going to have a much more difficult time escaping an abusive parent than an adult would when trying to escape an abusive romantic partner.
Open question: How do we contextualize this? And what should we do about it? Maybe the kids can’t prevent it, but perhaps onlookers can (e.g. neighbors, friends, teachers, etc.) if they recognize it in time.
As an aside: I haven’t read The Gift of Fear in a long time, but I recall that the author discussed several different types of abusers and how to recognize them.

12AM emphasized that abuse can be prevented “by the victims,” and many of the responses seem to focus almost entirely on the victim’s role in the relationship. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but why is that?

golden_eve also made the distinction between “prevent” and “avoid,” that we can do the latter, but not necessarily the former. When I said, “prevent abuse,” I was actually thinking of “leaving the relationship before it becomes abusive,” but that’s just semantics. If you’re seeing “prevent” as “attempt to control the potential abuser’s behavior” while also staying in the relationship, then sure, I agree that it’s a terrible idea. While I don’t think it’s impossible, that’s a very dangerous course of action, and I wouldn’t suggest it to anyone who’s in an abusive relationship. Oddly, it also seems to be the course of action a lot of people tend to take, from what I've experienced, even when their friends are pointing out all the red flags and urging them to exit the relationship.

So, why do you think this is the common response, even though there's a plethora of information on the "red flags" of abusive relationships? golden_eve suggested "love bombing," and certainly abusers have even more tactics they use to manipulate their partner into staying in spite of all the warning signs. On top of that, I think there's also a weird cultural taboo around abusive, controlling behavior and stark power dynamics between two partners. On the one hand, we have all this information on what abuse looks like, and on the other, we have many examples of popart which tend to glamorize the same behavior. Moreover, I think the popart is winning, and I think it's winning because it has a more appealing narrative, because it shows nuance and depth of character. I think, if we want to change the cultural landscape on a deeper level, we need to better utilize artistic expression.

Open Eyes, yes, it's very broad, and I did this deliberately. Like I said, I'm not really trying to make any sort of argument, nor do I really want to guide the discussion. I just want people to be able to discuss whatever ideas they're interested in and allow the conversation to evolve.

Also, please feel free to challenge any of my ideas.
Thanks for this!
tecomsin, TunedOut, unaluna