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Originally Posted by tryingtobeconstruct
Can anybody show evidence that "nobody is worthless"?
I know I'm worthless. No matter how nice I am to people, no matter how hard I try at work, no matter anything, I'm a failure at everything. My bosses are, at best, ambivalent about my job performance, and are often angry at me for things I tried very hard to do right. I have no friends. Nobody asks me to do friend things.
I tried going to church to make friends. Church is supposed to be a place where you feel welcome. I stuck with it for three years. I did church things, volunteered, tried talking with people. I finally gave up.. I got tired of leaving every service feeling lonely.
Some people *hate* me just because there's something unlikable about me. I'm often surprised by how much hatred there is. One coworker wrote a short story about killing me... when I reported it to my boss she ignored it.
I'm constantly baffled by the simplest things. I am literally the stupidest person I've ever known. I didn't understand basic bathroom hygiene until I was 12. I couldn't spell my own name until I was 13. Supposedly I was "gifted" but I was barely able to graduate high school.
I have never accomplished anything significant that I wanted. I cannot think of any way I've ever made the world a better place. Even worse, I'm a typical fatass American using up resources and leaving waste behind - I don't know how to live any other way.
Sometimes when I say these things people say "the common factor in all these situations is you". Well, yeah! That's my point... in all situations I've been in, the one common factor is that I'm not valued.
So... on what basis should I see any value in myself? Isn't it possible that some of us really are just worthless? I know people want to say that everyone as valuable. but those are just words. Can anybody show any reason I should think of myself any other way?
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I don't think you should get banned and I think it's a legitimate question. Although maybe more appropriate for the Coping forum.
Very interesting question for sure. I think there's a distinction here between who is doing the valuing. I think it's subjective. We often feel we have no worth, personally, while others do value us.
I probably cannot convince you that you have worth or that you should feel you have worth. But I do see that you have worth. Even if the worth to me is that you brought something up that I find very valid and would greatly appreciate a discussion on, even just to benefit myself. So you have worth and value to me as a conversation starter and a person of thought and discussion.
I don't know you in other contexts so it's hard to say otherwise.
However, I also firmly believe that all life holds worth inherently, intrinsically. You have worth simply because you are a living being, in my opinion. A lot of people would ask why and want an explanation, and I can't tell you why beyond the simple fact that I hold all life at a high value. So regardless of your contribution to society, of your intellectual value, your personality, anything else, you will still hold value and WORTH to me as a living being, with a soul, and a heart. (Okay yes, I know a soul and heart are up for debate, that's not the point here, but you get it, I hope.)
I think you will find a lot of interesting rhetorical or theoretical discussions on the matter here. I am intrigued to hear other people's responses. I mean, how do we assign worth or value to each other or ourselves?