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mckell13 said:
If you H is anything like mine, he has trouble realizing his affect on people because he can't get though his thick head that to treat people that was is wrong....

if Sunrise's husband just simply apologizes to get the other team members off his back, is it worth doing?

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">I think he is actually starting to realize there have been occasions he hasn't treated the girls well (understatement--how he might phrase it), but I know he doesn't extend that at all to me. It hurts yeah, but it's OK. We're splitting up. Technically, we don't need to mend anything between us. But he will be the girls' father forever, and he wants to stay involved, so it is important he do some mending with them. And I think he is starting to see this. The way he has treated me is another kettle of fish, and I don't expect he would ever apologize to me for anything.

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when I was an adult (after my mother died) he apologized in his own way

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">MissCharlotte, I also had an apology from my father when I was an adult, actually right after my first baby was born. It was very healing. My mom was the more problematic one for me though in parental relations, but hey, I'll take what I can get from Dad!

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Sunny, as for T being a coach in this setting, well I think once a T always a T! Therapy is FORVER! Sigh. I think the strength of your relationship with T shows through here.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post">Yes, sigh.... Thank you, MissCharlotte.

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Surnise, I want to be very clear here. Of all the people I've met at PC, YOU have been the one who most profoundly gave me the gentle wake up call I needed. If you were not here now, I would likely still be suffering in silence and my kids would be suffering too. The ripple effect of the things discussed and shared by everyone here on PC is really profound if you think about it.

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Wow, that's really powerful, McKell. Thank you.