IDK what the initial point of the thread was, to be honest.

The results of whatever it is that happens, is real. I doubt anyone on the thread is saying that it doesn't exist (or that it is really all in your/my/our collective heads.)

Yes, the suffering, the symptomology etc is all real. Absolutely real.

My point is that I believe it is so "real" that it is unfair to classify it as a "mental" disorder/illness..because I think they are all grounded in physical causes.

Don't get upset by what some ppl post... some of us do have philosophical discussions, and at times others have off the wall threads too.