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Old Feb 09, 2020, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Christina View Post
Well if your using a crisis line then I’m assuming your in a crisis.

I know people who have used lines whether voice or text and a police officer is dispatched on a welfare check, that doesn’t mean someone is going to automatically be taken off to the nearest hospital or psych ward. That crisis line could be something that can hold you over until you can call your Pdoc or T.

But yes there is info taken down.. there has to be, as mentioned there needs proof that there is a need for the service and how many people should be staffed to handle calls. Funding is an ongoing struggle.

Lots of people go to forums like PC and others to either reach out for help or just read so they don’t feel alone and they find hope.

I’m just glad that mental health is being talked about and we have access to help if we need it 24/7


Hi Christina,


Thank you for your response. You bring up some valid points.

In order to understand why there is an issue with writing legal record, one needs to realize that legal record is the reason why people cannot cross the Canada / USA border. It is the same reason why husbands and wives lose their children in custody battles, it is also the same reason why, in potential litigation, survivors of abuse become victimized due to distress line workers who don't understand the weight of legal record, nor have the necessary training to discern and fully comprehend complex problems such as these. But that doesn't stop them from haphazardly writing legal record about you without any inkling as to the potential ramifications that could result for the person seeking help... If a volunteer can write EVIDENCE against you - despite the fact that you are reaching out for help to a distress line that literally claims to be safe and confidential; I suppose one has to question whether that is in line with their own personal understanding of safe and confidential...

Here is what I am trying to say:


Therapy is inherently unsafe, due to the inherent power imbalances written in policy.


What determines whether or not therapy is a safe place, does not rely on the organization, it relies on the individual who assumes the role of therapist, police officer, distress line worker, doctor, etc...

There are good cops - and bad cops.

There are good psychiatrists - and bad psychiatrists.
There are good therapists - and bad therapists.
There are good distress line workers - and bad distress line workers.


All in all - when we grant power and no accountability to any human being, we grant them the opportunity to abuse with impunity. Unfortunately, this insight is often tossed aside in favor of a facade of do no harm. Those who are victimized by these systems, and are made aware of these inherent problems, are made subject to character smear campaigns, cyber bullying, corruption, threats and intimidation, etc. The powers that be have a vested interest in suppressing these stories because in reality - they have ALOT of dirty laundry.


THAT same power imbalance can be found on distress lines.


That doesn't mean the power will be abused.


It just means it can be.


And the only thing standing in the way of these abuses - is mere choice.


Do you really want to grant that much power to a complete stranger?

Another terrifying thing is when distress lines call police on you. Perhaps this is essential in saving lives - but perhaps you are not aware that police officers often shoot and kill vulnerable sufferers because they (until recently) had little to no training in trauma informed care...


Think about that power imbalance.


I've been threatened with this maliciously because I happened to run into a psychopath who works in healthcare, who personally couldn't handle the fact that I was aware of everything they do behind closed doors.


No accountability. No oversight. Power imbalance. Perfect environment for abuse.


Thanks,
HD7970ghz
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