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Old Mar 21, 2020, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by divine1966 View Post
Sadly sometimes therapy might not be a solution for particular issues or particular people. Or particular type of therapy.
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But I think it could also be that person needs different types of therapy or maybe something else instead, no therapy at all. Therapy can’t be solution to everything especially if it’s not helping and not improving anything.

Maybe one would do better with peer support, online support, books, meds, group therapy, change in life style etc etc

Just a thought
The thing is, psychological and emotional distress, especially extremes of that distress, are taken on -- and even "assigned" by "authorities" and recognized social "experts" -- to our society's "health" system, as "mental health", or more commonly nowadays, "behavioral health" matters. And, if someone is not functioning well, despite their best current efforts (which of course depend on their current state of knowledge, "health", social support and resources, etc.). . .then I believe it is up to those "experts", somewhere, somehow, to be open to reports of failures, FROM THE SERVICE USER'S PERSPECTIVE, and begin to try to address those. Which they are NOT, currently.

From a personal perspective, I have also -- do you doubt it? -- always tried to do my part and more, taken "personal responsibility" as well as I could, given where I was coming from, and OF COURSE tried numerous other resources to improve my life and my mental and emotional health -- including as an add-on and sometimes instead of the therapy -- "peer support, online support, books, meds, group therapy". Given how depressed, distressed, and dysfunctional I was, "change of lifestyle" wasn't very relevant in my situation, I believe -- though of course someone could fault me for not trying that, not knowing anything about my situation or my lifestyle or etc.

My distress -- and that of those like me whom psychotherapy has failed -- is simply NOT on the radar of anybody in the health system, however. Look at how awful it would be if doctors looked on COVID-19 as the flu and blamed everybody who got it because they didn't get a flu shot or "sometimes the flu shot just doesn't work."

Yes, emotional and psychological distress is different. There's nothing people can see under a microscope or any other type of testinq currently. No good theories, either, IMO. Or maybe complete theories, since I think Kohut has some good ideas about how a self -- or sense of self -- develops that could become something much more robust -- if psychologists even considered how they might develop their discipline into something more than what it is today. Which is NOT science, despite what some may say.
Thanks for this!
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