Well.. therapists are supposed to listen to that crap. But they do not in this forest as thirty shades has also found. I wish I could wave a magic wand and pretend the ''family'' were not abusers, but that would be a lie This is probably the wrong forum for this, I've found before most in this forum do not get it

If the family were ''good enough'' then why .... oh it doesn't matter

Some ''wise advice'' I have received if I have ever spoken about abusive family is ''don't live in the past''

Wow, I had never thought of that, thanks

If ..... yeah if any of them had changed in **** years.... they would love it if I hated myself so completely because of all their abuse, neglect and rejection

Sorry about the grrr ness

hugs and respect to all