With former T, a couple of friends got together and tried to convince me to go to therapy, which wasn't too hard because I was open to it. One of the friends was a social worker. She offered to find me the right therapist. She did. She found former T for me and I saw her for 10 years before she got MS. With the T I have now, she was in the same office as Pdoc and while he couldn't recommend anyone he said most people seem to get along with her so I tried her out. She's a bit quirky but I like her. Pastor T volunteered to start seeing me because I had put in prayer requests involving suicidal thoughts. My first Pdoc was referred to me by my Primary Care Provider. And then when he retired, I started seeing his replacement. He's been a great Pdoc.