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SarahSweden
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Default Jun 01, 2020 at 04:58 PM
 
Thanks here today. Itīs positive you got at least some acknowledgment from that consultant about how therapy hadnīt been helpful. I think itīs important that a therapist or counselor can admit that during the process and refer the client but that doesnīt always happen of course.

When I wrote about how a therapist should be able to adapt to the client my viewpoint was that many therapies given within (our) public health care are shaped by a lack of resoruces. That means therapists do sometimes know what their patients need but they canīt offer that due to financial constraints.

The latest therapist I saw wrote extensively in my records about what I need so she did understand my needs but at the same time she wrote they couldnīt offer me that as the facilityīs mission and responsibility donīt cover what I need from therapy.

I really agree on what you say about listening to patients and what they need and want from therapy. Treatment is relying way too much on predefined methods, manuals and regulations set by governments who know very little about the actual treatment and care of patients.

I need a personcentered therapist who knows about transference work and who can combine those two modalities. I need someone who also knows about sexology and who can talk about such issues on a psychological level. I think this is very hard to find as therapy here is often focused on one single issue, for example depression, and by that youīre most likely to end up with a therapist that knows about one single condition but canīt address other issues or addresses them in a parsimonious way.

My counselor talks about different issues in a very shallow way and often refers to something she heard or read, but without asking questions or follow through on anything. But in her case I know thatīs because her training wasnīt as a therapist but as a psychiatric aide or similar and she doesnīt know how to talk to me on a deeper level.

But itīs still a problem as they wonīt help me with a referall and Iīm stuck in all this due to my need for welfare.

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As you probably know, I feel a lot of commonalities in our experiences with therapy, despite the many differences in the specifics of our situations.

For instance, I don't see your experience here


as that different from what mine has been here in the US, despite the fact that I had private health insurance and could choose my own therapists, etc. I was depressed and couldn't work well and didn't have to work because I could scale back my lifestyle and live on what my late husband had left me. But I would have liked to find a way and place to go back to work, I would have liked not to be depressed and had the other issues I was dealing with.

No such luck!.

Recently I emailed my last therapist and the consultant, book author and trainer who referred me to her, and tried to make the point that therapy had failed me and I believed that the profession needed to acknowledge that more often and do more research into the issue.

I thought it likely I would not get a reply since it had been several years since I had seen them and they have no on-going relationship with me no.

The consultant did reply. The first reply seemed more "therapeutically" oriented toward me , that I had tried my best in all ways possible. That was not the issue I was trying to raise. I replied to her reply -- again, not necessarily expecting another reply from her. But I did get one, in which she seemed to acknowledge that therapy had not been helpful and she did not know what would have been more helpful.

That's not what their literature says very much. But it is what my experience has been. I feel it is in my best interest to accept the reality of what I have seen and heard, rather that what "should" be the case. Doesn't mean that therapy can't eventually come up with something that would have helped me or that people can refer you to there in Sweden. Just, for right now. . .it is what it is.

I guess you could say that I locked myself in an unprofitable situation and fruitless search. But the result is the same.

I also agree with what you wrote here:


Unfortunately, if they don't HAVE therapy that could really help with what you need, how can they adapt?

Since they CAN"T help me, based on what I have found, I am left with the question of what (else) am I going to do about this situation? What CAN I do?

I would be very interested in what you think you need and would like to get from health care, if it were available. I think that's where care providers need to look more, in order to develop better ways to help people in the future. But they are not doing it.

So, just for my own curiosity, if you would like to answer, what do you think would help you? Not what you have read about therapy necessarily but from your own experience in life?
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